Because children's brains are not fully developed no matter how mature they may seem. The law is put in place for a reason and any sick individual that thinks otherwise and tries to coerce a minor into having sex should have his cock shot off so he never harms another individual again. There are plenty of beautiful women out the who are legal, only the sickos try to lure in young children because they do not have the ability to meet someone of their own age. This topic makes me physically nauseous, how could someone even look at a minor and think about things like that??

 

Look, don't be a hater becauase we are generally discussing the morality of creating a law in general, most of us here support the law we but we had a good discussion on it. If you didnt want to read it then you should not have read it. We are not forcing any of our beliefs on anyone, and you should try to do the same. While I agree that taking advantage of a child is wrong I do also have my own predjudice about creating a law to say that children can not make the decision themselves in many cases, that the government has to take it into their hands. None of us here want the law removed so that we can go out and abuse a child, we are simply discussing the impacts of that law both of the posative and negative sides of said law. If you feel the need to continue discussing this in the manner you have began please insead of ruining this thread, send it to me in pm and I will be glad to have a discussion on the topic. ( I love to talk theory, politics, and phillosipy so I can't really be offended anyways)

 

If you are honestly asking what gives us the right. Nothing. Nothing gives us the right but that does not mean we do not have the responsibility to protect the young.

 

That is probably right, but how much power should that responsability actually afford? Is it not our responsability to teach our children all of the dangers, and responsabilites of having sex, just is it is to teach them the same about having a pet, and then would it not be the right of the parent to say, ok you are ready if you feel that it is time and that you can handle the consquences that it is ok with me, and that you can find this act to achieve a greater pleasure. I see giving the government the power to give the ability for the minor to consent to sex is like passing the buck by parents saying, ok I don't want this responsability, you can give them your sex ed classes, and you can tell them when they are ready so that I don't have to?

 

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I don't think he is being a "hater" he is putting in his point that child abuse is wrong, Of course most pedos don't think that what they are doing is abuse. Have you noticed you name shortened is CP kinda ironic that you made this thread talked the way you did and just shot down the guy how said pedos should get whats coming to them. Maybe I am reading things that aren't there but.

 

LOL I hadn't noticed that my name did that lol, wow...

As for shooting that guy down, it is not that I do not agree with what he was saying, it was with the forceful nature he was saying it, like I said I would be glad to talk to him in a private chat but I would like to keep the thread clean so that it can continue without going down a road of hatred and bad mouthing *SPAM**SPAM**SPAM**SPAM*'s so far we have had a great discussion and I don't want to see that come to an end because of a few hot headed comments starting an argument. I guess hater was the wrong word but I said it, and I am not going to take it back now, though I will appolagize if that was not his intention while asking him to calm down and talk with us on this with a cooler head as not to start arguments.

 

The drinking age was lowered to 18 when the US was drafting 18 year olds to go to Vietnam. Killing and dying for our country wasn't voluntary. After the war and the draft were over, the powers that be started to look at the death rate for 18 to 20 year olds in automobile accidents where alcohol was a factor. It was higher than it should have been given the number of that age group being on the road. With a lot of pressure from groups like Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, the drinking age was raised back up to 21. Guess what? The death rate for 18 to 20 year olds went down.

The human brain doesn't stop growing in weight until age 21 and it continues to develop until age 25. I just read that recent studies by the NIH found that one area that doesn't fully develop until age 25 is the area that controls risky behavior. Interesting, no?

While I understand the argument that a young person shouldn't be able to join the military and NOT be able to have a beer, what makes a good soldier to the military establishment is the ability to take orders. The younger the recruit, the more malleable they are. The younger they are the less likely they are to have married and/or had children. As for raising the age that a young person can enter the military to 21, just wait for the outcry. For many young people the military gives them an opportunity to get OUT of poverty. Love it or hate it, it's one of the best deals this country has to offer.

 

The problem with this argument is that many kids are curious these days when puberty begins for them, which is around 7-9 years old.

If you guys ever watch TV then you know there are plenty of 13 year old girls out there fucking anything that walks just because they can and because they want to.

Girls in the United States are entering puberty at earlier ages than they have in the past, a new study reports.
More than 10 percent of white 7-year-old girls in the study, which was conducted in the mid-2000s, had reached a stage of breast development marking the start of puberty, compared to just 5 percent in a similar study conducted in the early 1990s.
Black and Hispanic girls continue to mature faster than white girls, on average. Nearly one-quarter of black girls and 15 percent of Hispanic girls had entered puberty by age 7, according to the new study, which appears in the journal Pediatrics.
"If an 11- or 12-year-old girl looks like she's 16, people will interact with her as if she were 16."

 

age of majority legislation. we have to draw the line somewhere or perverts with a rationale will eventually be seeking dates in maternity wards with the newborns

 

Some 13 year old girls may be willing to "fuck anything that walks" but in fact they are hooking up with older boys. Well, the parents of the 13 year old girl have responsibilities. Group "dating" is fine for a 13 year old girl even if she looks 16. Having a 16 year old boy pick her up for a date isn't. That's just asking for trouble. Conversely, parents of 16 year old boys need to explain the LAW and make them understand that no matter what the 13 year old looks like and her willingness to engage in sexual activity, she is "jailbait". Personally, I think this is one of the reasons we have middle schools and high schools - to segregate the early adolescents from the late adolescents.

Thank goodness MOST girls are not entering puberty at age 7. As the statistics you cite mention - 25% Blacks, 15% Hispanics, 10% Whites - not exactly the majority. In any case, this early puberty is a byproduct of childhood obesity. Body fat makes estrogen too, besides the ovaries. that's why obese women have a higher risk of breast cancer. Because of estrogen from body fat, obese boys tend to start puberty LATER.

Even with early physical development, that doesn't mean that 7 year olds are psychologically ready for sexual activity. Imagine a young girl's confusion; getting secondary sexual characteristics like breasts and body hair while psychologically she's getting a feeling of competence - learning reading, writing and math. An adolescent develops their sense of self.

 

My point was that it's doubling every decade, as you can see, and even 10 girls out of every 100 is a LOT, that means there are some 7 year old girls going into puberty in just about every neighborhood in this country.
And that's just the stats for 7 year olds, not 8 or 9 or 10 year olds.

There are some 16-18 year olds that aren't even psychologically ready for sexual activity, no one is saying these kids are ready.
But the reason those promiscuous 13 and 14 year old girls are on TV is because their parents cannot do anything to stop them from sleeping with guys, many of whom are in their 20's and even 30's, not just 16 year old boys.

 

That's pretty freaky about 10% of 7 year olds girls reaching puberty can you show me a link to that source?

There are even some 25 year olds who aren't psychologically ready for sex lol

I saw one of these girls on Maury she was 13 or 14 and claimed she had sex with 100-200 men. Sex for a cheeseburger and one guy I guess you could call him her pimp even had her hold up a sign oral sex for 7 dollars. It's pretty sad they act the way they do they obviously have some big time issues, most likely their biological dad isn't in the picture combined with a few other things. I do think they blow things out of proportion in scaring the young girls some it's like you smoke weed you'll end up a dead hooker or abused woman umm it's possible that it could plant that "seed" or turn out like that but not likely at all.. It's like that show scared straight or whatever it is on A and E I saw part of one episode it was pretty good.

On that show they were scaring the girls saying how the women in jail have diseases like hepatitis HIV etc... not that HIV is transfered via lesbian sex lol... this one girl was like half of the women in here look like men which was true!

 

You guys bring up some very good points. A thought crosses my mind that maybe we need to develop a sort of license for sex. After all we have drivers licenses to protect not olny the individual driving, but the community as a whole. It seems that unready parents are a problem for not only the parent, or child, on many levels, but is also very bad for the community psychologically and economically. So what if instead of having only the age limit, we made a license requirement and used it in some way to help protect our children and community as a whole.

 

*not_secure_link*www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/08/09/girls.starting.puberty.early/index.html

 

I know this won't happen, but I think it would be great if we had a way to temporarily sterilize all young people when they turn 12 (or whatever age is deemed appropriate). Of course, it would have to be 100% effective and 100% reversible. In order to get your baby making works turned on, you would have to take classes in sex education, child development, anger management, etc. You would also have to show proof of financial responsibility.

FWIW, the fact that we still do not provide age appropriate sex education in all public schools is a crime. To simply say it's the parents responsibilty is a cop out. Too many parents aren't comfortable talking to their kids about sex and either discuss it briefly (the birds and the bees) or not at all. Even more parents don't discuss contraception and prevention of STD's because they think it will make their kids more curious and more likely to go out and have sex. That's just nuts. Saying it's the parents responsibility also assumes that the parents know what they're talking about. If no one ever gets proper sex education and learns the facts, how would parents suddenly know them. Just because you've made a baby doesn't mean you have all the facts to pass on to your kids.

 

Thats an interesting thought, a vasectemy at 12 for all the guys?

As for the propper sexual education in schools, i still remember my last sex ed class, and you are right it was horrible. Maybe we need to begin a petition here to improve sexual education in our schools. Where better then a website like xnxx to show our governments that we need something done, lol!

 

The question quickly comes down to not 'what gives us the right to say you are too young' but 'what gives us the right to tell you what you can and cannot do'. It's all about power.

Firstly there is the church. Why is it that those with the strictest rules about sex have the worst record of abuse? The Catholic church is the worst. Continuously led by decrepit old men who know nothing about sex other than the abuse of young boys, though in the good old days priests used to look after the sexual needs of those who lived in convents, it imposes its will on the poorest nations in the world, telling them that contraception is an abomination in the eyes of Gopd. Of course, in the good old days the priests wanted to keep the youngest, freshest meat for themselves.

The politicians. Now here is a special case. All these young rebels who shout out that when they get into power they will legalise drugs and all the rest, seem to go through the same chemical change that a spermatozoide goes through as it passes through the cervix. It's no longer a case of 'power to the people', but 'we have the power and we're bloody well going to use it to put you fuckers in your place'. Soon because of enforced marriages the age limit will go up and shortly after that they will find something new to impose on us. It's got nothing to do with the real people down there on the ground trying to live real lives. It's all about power-hungry fuckers who want to impose their will on everyone else and tax us out of existence.

 

I am going to just walk away from this thread because it sounds like it is just another pedos seeking reassurance from pedos style of thread which is just crap. The rules are there to protect, if kids experiment that is the parents issue but if I see any of you near the public school in my area you will be looking down old harry and that son of a bitch has a nasty bite.

 

yah alright your right this thread is starting to turn rancid. MOD PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD

 

Not talking about you, I do not know your intentions but it is the path that almost all the threads of the nature take. It is a interesting topic but not one that can be discussed without ulterior motives rising.